What is your favorite lightweight stove?
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Sasha Rice
(Rice) - F
What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/12/2005 17:43:46 MST Print View

I am currently using a esbit stove which has been modified to be much lighter while acting as a windshield which weighs around 2.5 ounces. I am looking for a stove that can take its place. I only use the stove to boil water in a Snowpeak Trek Titanium Bowl (Around 1.7 oz). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what new stoves I should look at.

John Chan
(ouroboros)
Favorite stove. on 11/12/2005 18:24:36 MST Print View

I'm using a Red Bull can open jet stove with a foil heat reflector base and a windscreen/pot holder I fashioned from 6" wide aluminum flashing.

Stove - 8 g
Windscreen/ pot holder - 20 g
Foil - 2 g
2 titanium pegs (slot through the windscreen) - 15 g
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Total kit (minus pot) - 45 g or roughly 1.5 oz

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
Re: Favorite stove. on 11/12/2005 19:52:49 MST Print View

I use a homemade stove just like the mini bull designs elite

works great, and dont need a pot stand.

also see the presurized SST and stealth stoves.

MBD store

Edited by ryanf on 11/12/2005 20:37:22 MST.

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/12/2005 20:23:40 MST Print View

There are quite a few good alcohol stove choices. I like the SuperCat alcohol stove, and I think your pot will be wide enough to use it well. It's .2oz for the stove, and I add another .3oz for foil windscreen and ground reflector. No stand or thinking required, which is nice.
-Mark

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 07:14:01 MST Print View

I LOVE my homemade esbit setup. LOVE it. Total system weight (weighed as a whole) including the pot, lid, grabber, everything... is 62 grams, 2.18 oz... not counting the tent stakes I use as a pot support. Here are the specs when I weigh each peice:

Pot (Heineken Jumbo Can): 27 grams
Pot Grabber (Made from wire coat hanger): 13 grams
Windscreen / Stand (Made from 0.004" aluminum cookie sheet): 10 grams
Esbit burner cup (bottom of V8 can): 2 grams
Lid w/ handle (Top from the beer can with paper clip handle): 6 grams
Elastic Band + plastic bag (for packing): 2 grams

A nice addition to this setup for not too much more weight would be a refectix cozy for those who like hot drinks.

I tried the FireFly and other alcohol stoves before switching to Esbit. I find alcohol is a pain and often ineffective. I hike on the east coast and it's often cool and brezzy and alcohol just doesn't cut it... won't boil the water... flames out before boil... blows out really easy... doesn't burn very hot... plus all the fuss of carrying the stuff... dosing... priming... etc. Pain in the butt compared to Esbit. Esbit burns hot and long... it has almost twice the BTU's for half the weight... tons of wiggle room for cool windy conditions... etc... you can even keep a hard boil going for 5 mins or so if you want to cook something in the pot. As for the soot... I just have a cut down plastic bag that covers the bottom of my pot when it's all packed up. As for smell... I've never noticed it.

Edited by davidlewis on 11/13/2005 08:20:00 MST.

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 08:39:09 MST Print View

David,
I have a pot made from a 24oz energy drink can, but anyway you dont need the pot grabber. I use a pair of fleece gloves when removing the pot from the stove (elite) and dont burn myself

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 08:42:21 MST Print View

Thanks Ryan, I actually don't usually carry gloves though... unless it's very late in the fall.

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 08:45:36 MST Print View

Here is a forum I posted on my cook kit a wile back

Ultralight Cook Kit

Edited by ryanf on 11/13/2005 08:47:34 MST.

David White
(davidw) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 09:14:19 MST Print View

David:

I kinda remember your earlier thread about the wire pot grabber. As my admitedly shaky memory goes, you were going to post photos and instructions after you got the bugs worked out. Did I miss it? (if so, I'll try a forum search).

Do you think your pot grabber would work with Fosters cans? I prefer the Heineken, but I'm currently using the Ultralight Outfitters Beercan stove which really only works well with the Fosters can.

Vick Hines
(vickrhines) - F

Locale: Central Texas
Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 10:40:39 MST Print View

1.73 ounces: Sterno can pot (8+ounc volume) with foil lid and 22 gauge wire bail; alcohol burner/pot support; foil wind screen; foil burner base; book of waterproof matches in z-loc; fuel measure. I also carry a Ziploc storage cup (0.3 oz), a plastic spoon (0.08), Platypus Little Nipper with pop valve (0.6) for fuel. Fuel required: 0.25 oz per cup to full boil @70F; up to 0.4 @lower temps. Works for me.

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/13/2005 14:53:20 MST Print View

David:

Yah... I was going to do that... just never got around to it :) Sorry. Maybe I will now. The can grabber thing would work with any can. I have used the stove in the field BTW and everything worked great. Not sure that I would change anything. It's pretty sweet I think for 62 grams... including pot, lid, grabber, windscreen / stand and "stove"... the stove being nothing more than an esbit tab on a tiny aluminum can bottom.

Yukio Yamakawa
(JSBJSB) - F

Locale: Tokyo,JAPAN
Re: Favorite stove. on 11/16/2005 05:05:56 MST Print View

pico50a

It can boil to 300 cc (for sierra cup). It was processed from the iron can (50mm diameter). It is the 70mm of the maximum outsides. Cyclone combustion is carried out.

Edited by JSBJSB on 11/16/2005 05:09:49 MST.

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/18/2005 05:21:08 MST Print View

I've been looking at this Ti rod and foil that BPL sells now and I calculated that... using these materials... my 62 gram esbit cook kit would go down to 44 grams!!! 44 grams (or 1,5 oz) for a pot, lid, stand, windscreen, burner and grabber!! Amazing. I'll let you all know if it works.

Edited by davidlewis on 11/18/2005 05:24:25 MST.

Michael Freyman
(mfreyman) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/27/2005 13:32:49 MST Print View

I have been experimenting with a new esbit stove/pot setup today. It came out to be 1.5 oz. total.

8 oz. pot w/ snap on cover - .6 oz
pot stand - .4 oz.
can stove - .3 oz.
windscreen and pot lid - .1 oz.
( + .1 oz between everything; my scale only calculates tenths)

For a total of 1.5 oz.

Everything fits into the pot with the snapon lid closed.

Michael Freyman
(mfreyman) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/27/2005 13:38:50 MST Print View

I can also fit 3-4 esbit tabs into the enclosed pot as well as the other itmes.

The plastic snap on cover weighs .1 oz. but the convenience of enclosing everything for storage is worth the weight.

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/27/2005 15:51:28 MST Print View

What are you using for a pot Michael? My setup uses a big beer can (so about 25 fl oz.)... but for solo meals... I don't really need that much water. I could probably get away with a pop can pot. At 27 grams, the beer can pot is by far the heaviest part of my system.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
favorite stove on 11/27/2005 16:20:11 MST Print View

been switching back and forth between the Ion and the Vargo Triad. I like the Ions base for hold a Ti 400 cup, but the flame base that the Triad puts out is fantastic.

Michael Freyman
(mfreyman) - MLife
Re: Re: What is your favorite lightweight stove? on 11/27/2005 16:31:14 MST Print View

David, see my new post of the pots I use -->


1.5 oz. Esbit w/ Pot

Edited by mfreyman on 11/27/2005 16:31:57 MST.

David Lewis
(davidlewis) - MLife

Locale: Nova Scotia, Canada
62 gram Esbit stove on 11/27/2005 17:40:00 MST Print View

Ok... I finally did up a page with pics, specs and plans for my 62 gram Esbit stove (includes 24 fl oz pot).

Here is the link

Edited by davidlewis on 11/27/2005 17:41:41 MST.

Michael Freyman
(mfreyman) - MLife
Re: 62 gram Esbit stove on 11/27/2005 18:05:32 MST Print View

David, nice setup. The 12 oz. Heineken can would be a natural fit for you. It is a little extra work to get the top off, but you would shave another .5 oz. over the large can.