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Dondo .
(Dondo) - F

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Photo file size on 11/07/2005 08:03:43 MST Print View

I recently used a computer with a dial-up connection and noticed how some photos took a long time to load. What's the maximum photo file size to use to ensure easy loading for everyone? Would using thumbnails be better? Or should I settle on using URLs? Thanks in advance.

Dondo

Edited by Dondo on 11/07/2005 08:08:54 MST.

Andy Lewicky
(romanandrey) - F
File Size on 11/07/2005 08:25:46 MST Print View

For dial-up users, one photo under 100K should be fine. If you have a group of photos, try to get them down under 20K each.

Do this by resizing the images (2000x1500 ---> 600x400, etc) and then applying JPEG compression.

Daniel Goldenberg
(dag4643)

Locale: Pacific Northwet
Re: File Size on 11/07/2005 08:46:02 MST Print View

Another option for dialup is to set your browser to not display photos. In internet explorer it's in the tools-options-advanced tab and you uncheck the "show pictures" box. You can do this while reading forums and then switch back to showing pictures.

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Re: Re: File Size on 11/07/2005 08:54:06 MST Print View

I personally like URLs instead. That way I can open an image in a separate window/tab, and keep on reading the original page naturally . It prevents the page from jumping as large images are completed--which happens even on my fast connection. It also gives a chance to check out the rest of a hiker's gallery or webpage, follow their links, and find more and more new stuff. And that's cool.

But the 100k is a good rule of thumb. Maybe a sample and a link to the rest of the photo collection for the truly intrigued?
-Mark

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
Photo file size etiquette on 11/07/2005 09:58:34 MST Print View

What Mark has proposed is not just a good idea it's considered good web etiquette on most boards I've ever had anything to do with.

Furthermore, when there are a lot of large images posted, it means many more pages on a busy thread to scroll through.

Dondo .
(Dondo) - F

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Re: Photo file size etiquette on 11/07/2005 10:58:34 MST Print View

Thanks to everyone who responded. In the future, I think I'll use URLs and link them to images 100K in size or less. One more question. Say I'm writing something like: "Here's a side view of my tarptent in the wind." How would I turn the word "tarptent" into a clickable link instead of showing the entire URL?

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Re: Re: Photo file size etiquette on 11/07/2005 11:15:41 MST Print View

Whoops. Donald, to display something like this in your post:

Yada yada I love my tarptent!

Type this:

Yada yada I love my <a href="http://www.tarptent.com">tarptent</a>!

-Mark

Edited by mlarson on 11/07/2005 11:21:47 MST.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Deleated on 11/07/2005 11:19:56 MST Print View

see above

Edited by bfornshell on 11/07/2005 11:21:42 MST.

Dondo .
(Dondo) - F

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Thanks, Mark and Bill (NM) on 11/07/2005 11:39:29 MST Print View

x

Edited by Dondo on 11/07/2005 11:40:49 MST.

Bob Gabbart
(bobg) - F
consider posting thumbnails on 11/07/2005 15:27:30 MST Print View

Consider posting thumbnails of your images with links to the larger image. Thumbnails can be very small, so they shouldn't bother anyone and then if someone needs the details, they can click on it to get the full picture.

Bob

Bob Gabbart
(bobg) - F
consider posting thumbnails on 11/07/2005 15:44:38 MST Print View

Consider posting thumbnails of your images with links to the larger image. Thumbnails can be very small, so they shouldn't bother anyone and then if someone needs the details, they can click on it to get the full picture.


Bob

Edited by bobg on 11/07/2005 15:48:38 MST.

Dondo .
(Dondo) - F

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Re: consider posting thumbnails on 11/07/2005 18:46:20 MST Print View

Bob,

I just edited one of my earlier posts using a thumbnail and really like the way it works. Thanks for the suggestion.

Dondo

R Alsborg
(FastWalker) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Re: Re: consider posting thumbnails on 11/08/2005 00:44:42 MST Print View

Could you explain how you did it?

Thanks
FastWalker

Bob Gabbart
(bobg) - F
how to make thumbnails on 11/08/2005 06:57:20 MST Print View

Just load your pictures into Photoshop or equivelent and then resize it to be maybe 100 pixel wide. Save that as a medium quality JPEG. The file should be 10k or something. Then put that in the same directory as the main file. Then in the editor put the text

<a href="http://www.mywebsite.com/bigpicture.jpg"><img src="http://www.mywebsite.com/thumbnail.jpg"></a>

where http://www.mywebsite.com/bigpicture.jpg is the URL for the big picture and http://www.mywebsite.com/thumbnail.jpg is the URL for the thumbnail.

Bob

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
How to make a thumbnail on 11/08/2005 07:06:39 MST Print View

NO

Bob Gabbart
(bobg) - F
How to make a thumbnail? NO? on 11/08/2005 07:51:50 MST Print View

NO???? Were the instructions wrong?

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
How to make a thumbnail on 11/08/2005 08:44:26 MST Print View

My pictures are all small email size of 640x480. There really aren't that many pictures even posted here. The site rules do not require what you are asking and I have more to do with my time. I have DSL but don't have Cable TV. That is how I chose to spend my money. I pay to be a member of this site and it does not yet require me go to all that extra trouble to post a picture(s).

Ryan Faulkner
(ryanf) - F

Locale: Mid atlantic, No. Cal
Re: how to make a thumb nail on 11/08/2005 08:55:00 MST Print View

Bob,
when your pictures resize in photo shop wont the link to the pitures be the same size photo?

or do you have to have the same picture saved twice, one small and one large

Edited by ryanf on 11/08/2005 09:08:37 MST.

R Alsborg
(FastWalker) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Re: how to make thumbnails on 11/08/2005 09:27:23 MST Print View

Bob

Thanks for the impromptu lesson in posting management.
Perhaps it is a little more work to create a more forum friendly posting but the results are worth it.

Best regards,
FastWalker

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Re: Re: how to make a thumb nail on 11/08/2005 09:40:19 MST Print View

Ryan-

I believe your second guess is correct. There are two versions of the same photo--one smaller one to display in the forum, and the link takes the reader to the original larger version. Thanks for sharing, Bob.

Bill-

There's no harm in Bob's responding to a direct question about how he posted a thumbnail link. I don't think it was meant personally. While your pictures are large in dimensions, the file size is generally small, which is nice.

There's just a balance to consider with a wide variety of users from across the planet. Not all users have high bandwidth, not all users have studio monitors running on 2560x1600. Much like our gear choices, those who are mindful of web design and ease of use also appreciate the results of a more 'lightweight' approach.
-Mark