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Addie Bedford
(addiebedford) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Necessity vs. Importance: Considering Ultralight Essentials on 07/15/2008 18:40:34 MDT Print View

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Necessity vs. Importance: Considering Ultralight Essentials

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Necessity vs. Importance: Considering Ultralight Essentials on 07/15/2008 19:22:28 MDT Print View

Should that be Fenix L0D? I've not heard of an L01.

Kendall Clement
(socalpacker) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
re: "necessity vs. importance" on 07/15/2008 23:39:11 MDT Print View

Ryan,
Thanks for the insight. I am, admittedly, a beginner and find myself wrestling with the question of, "do I need this or do I want this?" Then, I remind myself that it's the weight, or lightness of weight that's important.

Edited by socalpacker on 07/15/2008 23:43:27 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Necessity vs. Importance: Considering Ultralight Essentials on 07/16/2008 03:22:21 MDT Print View

I usually have several sticking plasters (Band Aid..) and Gaffer Tape with me. I have used the Gaffer tape when I had the brilliant idea of taking my almost new Teva sandals on a 3 day hike ( too many wounds and too much abrasion for the Band Aid) and a couple of other times when I wanted it to be there for longer than a day.
Would you ditch the sticking plasters in favor of the Leukotape ?
( I have with me some cotton balls with Vaseline and a cotton handkerchief)
Franco

Miguel Marcos
(miguelmarcos) - F

Locale: Middle Iberia
Petzl e+lite on 07/16/2008 05:21:01 MDT Print View

I carry the e+lite. It's lightweight but powerful enough if necessary, plus has red light for comfortable night vision. An excellent weight/feature combination.

Tony Burnett
(tlbj6142) - F

Locale: OH--IO
Draining blisters... on 07/16/2008 08:20:46 MDT Print View

On a recent trip I had two a large blisters on the outside edge of my feet just above my heel pad (below and slightly behind my ankle). It wasn't from rubbing, but (I think) from not having narrow enough heel-cups such that my heel was allowed to move side-to-side as I stepped on rocks, roots, angled pathways, etc. This side-to-side movement (combined with soggy feet from daily downpours) resulted in the separation of skin layers.

These "blisters" occurred under very thick skin (the waning edge of my heel pad). Given the location (difficult to reach) and the thicker cover, how should I drain these? What tool should I use? I had a small needle, but nothing would drain from the wholes through that thick skin.

Any thoughts? Scissors?

victoria maki
(clt1953) - F

Locale: northern minnesota
re:blisters on 07/16/2008 08:57:33 MDT Print View

tony. i would not drain them, as you set yourself up for one nasty infection, especially if you feet are wet all the time. i would put an antiboitic on them and keep them covered during the day and uncovered at night. there is a product out there (can't remember name) that is designed for blisters. use one of those then put a piece of mole skin over, as the blister paks are not very wear resistant. you could also put a piece of duct tape over, being careful not to get tape on any of the blister. would hurt like h--l to rip off blister.....

David Neumann
(idahomtman) - M

Locale: Northern Idaho
Leukotape on 07/16/2008 10:03:47 MDT Print View

Don't you have difficulty removing the Leukotape from your skin? This is a great product, expensive though, but it adheres to skin vigorously especially if you coat the skin with Tincture of Benzoin. I have used duct tape for years and it manages to adhere for most of a week with 20 mile days.

David Neumann
(idahomtman) - M

Locale: Northern Idaho
Leukotape on 07/16/2008 10:04:49 MDT Print View

Don't you have difficulty removing the Leukotape from your skin? This is a great product, expensive though, but it adheres to skin vigorously especially if you coat the skin with Tincture of Benzoin. I have used duct tape for years and it manages to adhere for most of a week with 20 mile days.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 10:24:17 MDT Print View

I've tried duct tape and it won't stick to my skin. The Leuko works like a champ though and I don't need the benzoin tincture with it either. Best piece in my medical kit by far.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 10:42:53 MDT Print View

Where can I get some of this Leukotape?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: Re: Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 10:48:44 MDT Print View

Leukotape on sale @ BPL

Edited by simplespirit on 07/16/2008 10:49:25 MDT.

Roleigh Martin
(marti124) - MLife

Locale: Moderator-JohnMuirTrail Yahoo Group
Re: re:blisters on 07/16/2008 10:55:30 MDT Print View

I think Tori is talking about "Second Skin", which I've always carried and it is only useful for blisters. I use Leuckotape (used to use moleskin) to prevent getting blisters and if someone (I don't get blisters) gets a blister, I (being the good, friendly trail amateur foot medic), I apply the Second Skin first, and on top of that Leuckotape to hold the second skin to the foot. There is no adhesive power to a Second Skin layer.

Clifford L Deal Jr
(Lanier) - M
Leukotape on 07/16/2008 11:05:46 MDT Print View

How do you carry a small amount of tape off the large roll? Does it retain its effectiveness?

victoria maki
(clt1953) - F

Locale: northern minnesota
re:blisters on 07/16/2008 11:52:33 MDT Print View

clifford, they actually have small rolls of duct tape in camping gear stores such as gander mt.,etc.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 12:06:39 MDT Print View

I have a small vial that has a needle, tick tweezers, and a couple of safety pins in it that I wrap the leukotape around. It's just as sticky when I pull it off that tube as it is fresh off the roll.

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 12:27:44 MDT Print View

You can DIY small rolls by rolling onto a length of drinking straw. My experience is that so long as you don't touch or otherwise contaminate the adhesive, the tape retains its properties.

Gail Lusk
(AlohaTink) - F

Locale: In the Middle of No Where!
CELOX on 07/16/2008 12:41:08 MDT Print View

CELOX is the only thing I would add...so light weight and worth its weight in gold if ever needed.
It is a new granular hemostatic agent that controls life-threatening bleeding fast.

EVERY REASON TO CHOOSE CELOX
CELOX is lightweight, small, and fits into a pocket. It is intelligently packaged to be safely opened with one hand and easily applied. CELOX is affordably priced and available in two small, lightweight, and compact package sizes - 15g (0.5 ounce) or 35g (1.25 ounce) with a shelf life of 3 years.

FEATURES BENEFITS

For all bleeding emergencies Count on it as an immediate first response. Safe and reliable.

No special training needed, easy open Can be self applied and one handed use possible.

Can rapidly add granules
to wound No careful measuring or application needed

Safe for chest, head and
neck wounds No hazard from inhalation or ingestion

Controls severe arterial bleeding Minimizes blood loss, tissue damage, risk of shock

No heat from exothermic reactions Won't cause burns to victim or caregiver

Use in all temperatures Works even in hypothermic conditions

Forms strong gel-like clot Protects the wound yet is easy to clean out

Clots Heparinized blood Works on patients taking anticoagulants such as Heparin, Coumadin, Warfarin, as well as Aspirin

Lightweight, pocket-sized, economical Available in 15g or 35g sizes, affordably priced

I never bother with bandaids but I never go without Burn Gel either... children and young men always seem to get hurt... and NO I do not sell this stuff..lol
Just discovered it this year is all :)

Here's a link with a little more background
http://www.celoxmedical.com/?page=sabnorm

Edited by AlohaTink on 07/16/2008 12:45:10 MDT.

R K
(oiboyroi) - M

Locale: South West US
Re: Leukotape on 07/16/2008 14:56:36 MDT Print View

I use a product called Spyroflex and from the given description of leukotape it sounds like it may be the same thing. Anyone know if this is the case?

Roleigh Martin
(marti124) - MLife

Locale: Moderator-JohnMuirTrail Yahoo Group
Re: CELOX on 07/16/2008 15:22:16 MDT Print View

Gail, thanks for the informative post and link. I just ordered some from here:

http://www.amazon.com/Celox/dp/B000NCUEZ6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1216243220&sr=8-1