Rain/wind shells
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David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 13:24:40 MDT Print View

OK, so I'm (almost) convinced that I need to carry BOTH a rain and wind shell instead of one heavy rainjacket. Which would you choose?

I've been looking at the following options:

1. Rain jacket

OR Zealot

Marmot Essence

How important are pit zips for rainjackets? I noticed the UL ones lack pit zips.

2. Wind shell

Marmot Ion

Montbell Ultralight Wind Jacket

How breathable are these shells? Is breathability inversely related to wind resistance?

Let me know if I should consider any other options.


Carter Hunt
(TheChamp) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Rain Jackets on 05/19/2008 14:35:32 MDT Print View

I have no experience with the jackets you have listed, but here are a few more options for rain gear:

Mountain Hardwear Quark ($200, 10oz, pit zips, hand pockets, adjustable hood)

The North Face Diad ($200, 8oz, small pit zips, adjustable hood)

You can usually get them 20% off if you wait for coupons or sales.

Dave Heiss
(DaveHeiss) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 14:46:44 MDT Print View


Make sure you try on the Marmot Ion before purchasing. It was my first choice for a windshell due to it's full zipper, reasonable price and performance. However, on me (6'2", 180) the shell fit is almost rediculously short. That was in my normal Large size. The XL fit better in the length, but was rather loose in other areas.

I ended up buying an OR Ion pullover that was deeply discounted on Backcountry.com. Its length was better suited to my bod, and it was a little lighter too.

David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Re: Rain Jackets on 05/19/2008 14:51:59 MDT Print View

I ordered the MH Quark, but I found the hood to be HUGE. It fell over my eyes, obstructing my vision. Did anyone else experience this?

David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Re: Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 14:53:18 MDT Print View

How's the breathability of the Marmot Ion? I am only 5'7" tall, so short would be a good thing. I like the price of this jacket, however, I'd like to hear about the Montbell windshirt I mentioned. It is listed as being under 3 oz.

Frank Deland
(rambler) - M

Locale: On the AT in VA
Rain/Wind on 05/19/2008 15:22:27 MDT Print View

Rain: Marmot Pre-Cip

Wind: Golite wind shell tops. Both Golite models can be rolled up and stuffed in your pant pockets. They also make a nice warming layer over a sweater or fleece.

Sheila Baynes
(sheilabaynes) - F

Locale: Alaska
houdini houdini houdini on 05/19/2008 15:34:20 MDT Print View

best wind jacket EVER. pricey, but you will have it for life.

as for the raingear, I'm not a good person to give advice. I live in a rainforest and just laugh at gear like the PreCip. In Alaska, UL raingear is a bit of a deathwish unfortunately.

but the houdini is so so so amazing!

Gregg White
(gewhite) - F

Locale: WA State
Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 16:50:44 MDT Print View

I feel that it all depends on your location and what you are comfortable with I know that sounds vague but fill us in on where you hike, and we might suggest something. Also how long you go out for is something to take into consideration. Just for the record I like my GoLite Phantasm (Paclite Goretex). If it is windy and no rain I just wear less layers under it.

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
wind/rain shell. on 05/19/2008 16:57:51 MDT Print View

i second the houdini. it's great, though the hood and the stow pocket are not ideal. the breathability/wind-blocking seems perfect to me.

i have a tnf diad and like it, though i have not used it in prolonged rain yet. it's lighter and packs smaller than my old precip (which i never was super impressed with).

Frank Deland
(rambler) - M

Locale: On the AT in VA
rain/Wind on 05/19/2008 16:58:27 MDT Print View

Agree. PreCip is not meant for standing around in a heavy downpour, but if you are in a rain forest, aren't you in the tropics?

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
rain forest on 05/19/2008 17:04:06 MDT Print View

i'm sure she's talking temperate rain forest!

i can't see using a precip in the tropics - it's already wet, soggy, and humid enough inside a precip...

Sheila Baynes
(sheilabaynes) - F

Locale: Alaska
Temperate RF on 05/19/2008 17:23:21 MDT Print View

Thanks Dave, you're right. One spot on Baranof Island (the island that Sitka is on, where I live most of the year) has recorded over 200 inches of rain (Sitka probably gets about 100). So yeah, the Raingear proposition has heightened consequences. Being wet and cold is no fun. I agree, for good advice the OP should list the areas the jacket will be used. It makes a pretty big difference.

Lynn Tramper
(retropump) - F

Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna
Re: Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 17:30:21 MDT Print View

My fave windshirt is the Montane Aero (if you can find one) or their Featherlite. They are very robust, very breathable and very windproof.

Tony Fleming
(TonyFleming) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Rain/wind shells on 05/19/2008 17:48:22 MDT Print View

If you search the forums for Event rain wear you will find the consensus was/is the Integral Designs Thru-hiker jacket. I couldn't justify the expense and went with a paclite jacket that someone suggested from cabelas. It's was hard to beat the $100.00 price tag for a light weight GTX paclite jacket.


Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Event rain jacket on 05/19/2008 17:55:11 MDT Print View

The ID Event rain jacket is definitely the best WPB jacket I have ever owned. It is a no frills, lightweight, superbly breathable jacket that gets the job done. Some folks prefer the Thru Hiker, and I have no quarrel with that-it wasn't available when I purchased mine. BTW, they're both on sale at Prolite Gear as of today.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
HMMmmmm... on 05/19/2008 18:02:19 MDT Print View

I'd say a light eVent parka W/ a Velcro tab to keep the hood rolled up when not needed would STILL be the best way to go. Very breathable, truly waterproof (for safety), and more durable and takes up less space than two garments.

What's that UL mantra? - Multiple Use for as many items as possible.

Yes, I understand the cost of an eVent parka is far greater than a windshirt & "sprinkles" jacket. I still make-do with a GTX PacLite parka for both wind and rain.

P.S. But someday I'll get that Integral Designs eVent Thru Hiker parka. It's almost idntical to my Cabela's PacLite parka in size but it's more breathable and 4 oz. lighter. HOWSOMEVER...at $239. on sale it's $150. more than my Cabela's PacLite parka.

Edited by Danepacker on 05/20/2008 12:01:29 MDT.

Joe Westing
(pedro87) - F
rain jackets on 05/19/2008 19:26:20 MDT Print View

Has anybody had a good experience with the GoLite Phantom? It is on sale at Prolite Gear for $150 (link). The reader reviews seem to really like it.

Frank Deland
(rambler) - M

Locale: On the AT in VA
more rain gear on 05/19/2008 20:34:05 MDT Print View