"With an increase in shortwave it's entirely possible to have increases in longwave escaping for a period, but what is important is the relationship there, relative to what the ratio would have been without extra CO2."
You're armwaving with no figures to show.
"I know your side likes to harp on the IPCC regarding the positive water vapor feedback predictions, but I am one that believes we certainly have experienced increases in negative H2O feedbacks."
Well I'm glad to hear it Dan. Thanks for supporting my argument.
"We get both negative and positive feedback from CO2."
But of course Dan. Co2 causes global warming, global cooling, and global saminess. It's the ultimate in unfalsifiable junk science.
"Global Warming has been adjusted to Climate Change in case you have not noticed."
Yes, amusing isn't it?
And the IPCC has just redefined "climate change" too:
They recently redefined climate change as:
“A change in the state of the climate that can be identified (e.g., by using statistical tests) by changes in the mean and/or the variability of its properties and that persists for an extended period, typically decades or longer. Climate change may be due to natural internal processes or external forcings, or to persistent anthropogenic changes in the composition of the atmosphere or in land use”.
This is different from the previous definition. IPCC states:
“This definition differs from that in the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), where climate change is defined as: “a change of climate which is attributed directly or indirectly to human activity that alters the composition of the global atmosphere and which is in addition to natural climate variability.”
This is a sneaky move. In effect they are making a post hoc rationalisation to make their previous position more tenable, or a least less untenable…
"Rog, it seems like from what you say above that there is an effective energy balance going on with plenty of longwave getting back to space yet you use this same period of C20 solar activity to explain why things are warm now and gradually cooling. You can't have it both ways."
I don't need it both ways, and nor am I trying to have it both ways. I said that OLR increased and temperature rose. The Earth responded to the increased solar activity and the consequent reductionn of cloud by shifting the jet streams polewards, thereby losing more energy faster. But this still resulted in warming because the sun was more active than it has been for 8000 years. Now that the Sun has gone sleepy, the jet streams are moving equatorwards again as the Earth conserves energy in the oceans, which are now cooling, as the ARGO data showed until the latest 'adjustment' of the data to force it to conform to the cockamaney co2 theory.