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Brian James
(bjamesd) - F

Locale: South Coast of BC
Re: Looking at the math... on 03/02/2008 23:19:19 MST Print View

Quote: "For a weekend trip where I am hiking all day long, bringing 2lbs of food a day, and carrying an average of 64oz of water (I often hike in very dry climates), my total pack weight with my 7.5lb bw is 16.5lbs. If I drop 2lbs off, that is a 12% weight savings."


It gets even worse if you calculate it as a percentage of your total weight. If you're 150 lbs, for example, dropping 2 pounds from a weekend load is a 1.2% savings. If you're 180 like me, dropping even 4 pounds from a weekend pack becomes equivalent to going for *one* extra long training walk during the week before the trip. Given that dropping 4 pounds can easily take 100 hours of research and testing and/or cost a grand in new gear, (at the lower base weights,) sometimes it is actually preferable to just do the extra work on my body instead.

And there are of course other fringe benefits and dividends to working on your fitness as your *primary* method of improving your trips and being a gram weenie second.

But I'm a guy who works with computers 40-75 hours a week, usually dayhikes 1-3 weekends a month, spends lots of time doing stuff his girlfriend likes, and never does the Arctic 1000: People like Ryan, Roman, Andy Skurka, Bill Fornshell, and that guy who yo-yoed the CDT alone in one season are a whole other kettle of fish. Those people hone their fitness and diet to the absolute bleeding edge of what their personal physiology is capable of. From there on in, the only place to improve performance (and range and fun) is to delve into changing out their 9-ounce bivy for a 6-ounce bivy or their 6-ounce bivy for a 4-ounce bivy.

I used to spend hours and hours obsessing about how to make tiny changes to my kit and style, but I've changed that strategy. I now read the articles and forums here casually to try to cherry-pick gear and techniques that are direct substitutes for what I'm doing now and what's aging in my kit. My CiloGear pack is coming in the mail just as my old pack is starting to look like I stole it from a homeless person, and my OWare pyramid saved me 3 pounds and quite a few bucks over buying a winter tent for trips this year. Next up is a double quilt from Jacks R Better for me and my gf -- but maybe in a year or two.

In the meantime, I hike the Grouse Grind in the summer and the Hollyburn Mountain trail in the winter, and the effect on my trips has been the equivalent of dropping my baseweight to a negative number!!

Rand Lindsly
(randlindsly) - MLife

Locale: Yosemite
Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 03:47:46 MST Print View

>....his vorpal blade went snicker, snack.
>
>And with that, Ben strikes the troll dead.

xyzzy

Chad Miller
(chadnsc)

Locale: Duluth, Minnesota
Re: Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 08:23:37 MST Print View

Apparently he didn't strike it very dead huh?

Michael Skwarczek
(uberkatzen) - F

Locale: Sudamerica
Re: Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 08:38:38 MST Print View

plugh

Rand Lindsly
(randlindsly) - MLife

Locale: Yosemite
Re: Re: Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 11:58:06 MST Print View

>Apparently he didn't strike it very dead huh?

you are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike

Chad Miller
(chadnsc)

Locale: Duluth, Minnesota
Re: Re: Re: Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 12:03:10 MST Print View

Well then I will bring out my enchanted .01 ounce mystical GPS / Altimeter / Thermometer / Natural Male Enhancer and use it to find my way outa here!

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
Re: Re: Re: Re: one two, one two, and through and through on 03/03/2008 12:05:41 MST Print View

>you are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike

... I attack the darkness!!...

Rand Lindsly
(randlindsly) - MLife

Locale: Yosemite
Adventure on 03/03/2008 12:10:46 MST Print View

[dropping_out_of_character]
By way of explanation, what Michael and I are referring to is lingo from a very early game in the history of computers called "Adventure"....probably before many of you were born. It would be difficult to explain because with modern software and games most people think of things completely differently than we did back then with only text based I/O. Nevertheless, when dinosaurs like us bump into one another, and realize we have found a kindred spirit, we start talking in phrases that most find non-sensical. Sorry for the diversion!
[/dropping_out_of_character]

THERE IS A THREATENING LITTLE DWARF IN THE ROOM WITH YOU!

Edited by randlindsly on 03/03/2008 12:26:40 MST.

Chad Miller
(chadnsc)

Locale: Duluth, Minnesota
I will . . . on 03/03/2008 12:51:51 MST Print View

Eek! A short bearded person!

I will bash the little bugger with my +2 beer stein! Take that you diminutive drunk!