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Brett Tucker
(blister-free) - F

Locale: Puertecito ruins
Bushbuddy-compatible cookpot on 02/11/2008 19:25:29 MST Print View

Could anyone suggest a 1.3L-ish capacity cookpot that will nest the Bushbuddy wood stove, preferably nice and light? The FireLite SUL-1100 is currently OOS.

John Kays
(johnk) - M

Locale: SoCal
IMUSA Aluminum Mug on 02/11/2008 22:38:53 MST Print View

The price is between 2.50 and 5.00 at Walmart:
Stove & Mug
IMUSA Mug

Jed Augustine
(jaugusti) - F

Locale: Appalachians/Rockies
Re: IMUSA Aluminum Mug on 02/11/2008 23:10:05 MST Print View

John-

How does the aluminum hold up to wood fires?

Thanks!

Brett Tucker
(blister-free) - F

Locale: Puertecito ruins
Re: IMUSA Aluminum Mug on 02/11/2008 23:32:00 MST Print View

OK - great! I see the related thread now...

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/xdpy/forum_thread/11312/index.html

Still not quite clear on the volume of the IMUSA mug recommended here.

Edited by blister-free on 02/11/2008 23:39:33 MST.

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
BB Pots on 02/12/2008 08:48:33 MST Print View

Jed A - Aluminum will hold up just fine, AS A POT, on wood fires.

Brett T - The BB creator sized it to fit a SP900 pot, which are readily available. The BL 900 is the same pot used in the Trail Designs Tri-Ti and is slightly wider and shorter than the SP900.

Edited by jdmitch on 02/12/2008 08:49:56 MST.

John Kays
(johnk) - M

Locale: SoCal
Aluminum Mug on 02/12/2008 08:49:45 MST Print View

Hi Jed,

I don’t know of any problems with using aluminum pots or mugs with wood burning stoves. The Bushbuddy would seemingly not burn as hot as a canister stove. More than just a few, it seems, use beer cans and other more fragile improvised cookware in conjunction with these stoves. I just don’t know. I have other pots made from aluminum and assume that is their intended use. I chose this particular mug because of the fit with the Bushbuddy Ultra. It fits like they were made for each other and the mug protects this fragile, lightweight stove from being mangled inside my pack.

Michael Skwarczek
(uberkatzen) - F

Locale: Sudamerica
Bushbuddy-compatible cookpot on 02/12/2008 09:45:33 MST Print View

Jed A

It's important to have water in any pot that you expose to a direct flame or you'll probably experience warping. I've used a Heine pot over my DIY BB, and so long as it's filed there's been no problem.

-Michael

Jed Augustine
(jaugusti) - F

Locale: Appalachians/Rockies
Water in cookpot on 02/12/2008 10:06:53 MST Print View

Hey y'all-

It makes sense that with water in the pot you are safe with flimsier materials. I guess where there is water, the pot can only be a little hotter than the boiling point. If it was empty I suppose the pot would just approach the heat of the flame, which, using the magic of the internet, can ran from 300*C to 600*C at the flame tip to between 900*C and 1200*C at the continuous flame region.[1]

Meanwhile the melting point for Al is 660.32*C. Definite problems with an empty pot. In contrast, Ti has a melting point of 1668*C. No problem there![2]

Just FYI.

Jed

[1] http://www.doctorfire.com/flametmp.html
[2] http://www.webelements.com/

Paul Wozniak
(PaulW)

Locale: Midwest
IMUSA Aluminum Mug on 02/12/2008 10:13:01 MST Print View

I have looked for this mug at every Walmart I come across, plus anytime I'm near a cookware section in any store. Nada.

I have also contacted IMUSA, using a spanish-english translating site. They appear to be a very big company. Not surprisingly I did not get a response to a request for help locating a $5 mug.

Has anyone got a recent lead on these things? I would buy a handful.

I was going to grind off the handle on my expensive Snow Peak and fashion a bail. Grinding of the handle on the lid took at least a half hour. I'd rather do this on an IMUSA mug.

Anyone, anywhere got a CURRENT source?

Paul

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
IMUSA Mugs - Dry-Burning Ti on 02/12/2008 10:20:53 MST Print View

Jed A is right, no way on green earth is a BB is going to get hotter than a GST-100S. And that didn't do jack to my SP600 in my Titanium Burn Test. So, dry-burning Ti isn't going to do anything.

Oh, and yes, with thin materials water limits material temp to roughly the boiling temp of the water (maybe 1* higher on the surface). Now, thick materials is a different story.

Paul W - Sarah K mentions a different IMUSA pot on her Blog, she recommends looking in the latino areas of your local supermarkets. If you have a market in a predominantly latino neighborhood, even better.

Edited by jdmitch on 02/12/2008 10:22:00 MST.

Paul Wozniak
(PaulW)

Locale: Midwest
Bushbuddy-compatible cookpot on 02/12/2008 11:29:13 MST Print View

Josh,

We do, and I will. Thanks.

Brett Tucker
(blister-free) - F

Locale: Puertecito ruins
Bushbuddy-compatible 1.1-1.3L pots on 02/12/2008 12:43:01 MST Print View

Unfortunately 900-1000ml pots don't cut it for me. The FL SUL-1100 is at the bottom end of do-able, capacity-wise. I'm finding 2L pots that would fit the BB, but this size is overkill. Anyone in the same boat with a known solution?

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
Re: Bushbuddy-compatible 1.1-1.3L pots on 02/12/2008 13:51:58 MST Print View

If it'll fit in the SP900, it'll fit in the SP1400.

In reality, whatever you get it's going to rattle around in at those volumes.

Another option would be the FL SUL-1300 could work.

However, the outer pot of a MB Alpine Cooker #2 isn't going to me too shabby of a fit. It's HA rather than Ti, but that's not too bad...

45.5 US fluid ounces = 1 345.5956 ml so it meets volume requirements

Hmmm... a GSI ULTRALIGHT SOLOIST COOK SYSTEM should fit it and has a 1100 ml volume.

Edited by jdmitch on 02/12/2008 14:03:48 MST.

Brett Tucker
(blister-free) - F

Locale: Puertecito ruins
Re: Re: Bushbuddy-compatible 1.1-1.3L pots on 02/12/2008 17:55:02 MST Print View

Great info, Joshua. Thank you.

I long ago predicted my Evernew 1.3L would outlive me. And it probably will. But it's time for a new approach, sans alcohol, especially with all the desert trekking I do.

Ryan Hutchins
(ryan_hutchins) - F

Locale: Somewhere out there
Re: Re: Bushbuddy-compatible 1.1-1.3L pots on 02/12/2008 18:57:32 MST Print View

If your BB is rattling around, you could always pack some food around it to secure it a bit, and reduce your pack volume.

Monty Montana
(TarasBulba) - MLife

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: IMUSA mug on 02/12/2008 22:31:21 MST Print View

Would this be the same as the so called "grease pot" that could supposedly be found at Wal Mart? I, too, had no luck finding anything resembling this, and I looked in housewares, camping, etc,

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
You guys have WinCo? on 02/12/2008 22:36:05 MST Print View

As mentioned WinCo is carrying a number of IMUSA stuff now in their Latino section. I am hedging now that the Hispanic and Latino stores should start showing up with the mugs. Next time I am up North in a certain town that has a huge migrant population I am going to check that theory out.

As for the GSI Soloist...I love mine, but...for really hard line UL'ers it is just too heavy. Still it is a gorgeous set.

ERIC PAYNE
(vaporjourney)

Locale: Greater Gila
IMUSA in walmart on 02/12/2008 22:47:30 MST Print View

I too had trouble tracking down the infamous IMUSA mug. I looked at every walmart within a 15 mile radius of my house, no luck. When I was out doing some errands on the other side of Atlanta, I just happened to stop inside of the Walmart there and stumbled upon oodles of them. This is much better than dropping so much more money for a pot that is relatively the same weight, and can hold over a liter of water. I'm sold. Keep looking!

Dave .
(Ramapo) - F - M
What?!?! on 02/13/2008 06:31:43 MST Print View

>>I looked at every walmart within a 15 mile radius of my house, no luck.

Does anyone else here find it absolutely terrifying that the corporate overlords think we need that many f@cking Walmarts?

Suburban wasteland indeed...Stuff like that makes me so angry. Anyway...

Back to talking about cook pots. Sorry.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: IMUSA mug on 02/13/2008 07:14:51 MST Print View

Monty, no it's not the same as the Walmart Grease pot since it is a narrow pot diameter.