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Wade Henrichs
(WadeHenrichs) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
New Garmin Colorado coming soon? on 12/14/2007 16:39:40 MST Print View

Rainier Winter

There may be a new Garmin Series coming this spring called the Colorado. Supposedly handles U.S. topo 1:24 uploads, arial photos (raster images), etc. Weight unfortunately more like 7+ ounces, battery life only about 16 hrs (AA), but pretty nice feature set.


http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_tracklog/2007/12/more-on-the-gar.html#more

Mike W
(skopeo) - F - M

Locale: British Columbia
Garmin eTrex Vista HCx GPS REVIEW on 12/14/2007 17:18:17 MST Print View

Before I bought my 60cx about 2 yrs ago, I asked Garmin what reciever they were using in these units. They weren't shy about stating that the units had the SirfStar 3.

"Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I will be happy to assist you today. The new GPSMap 60Cx will have the SirfStar III Gps receiver and will not come with any internal memory."

Wade - Thanks for the info re: the Colorado... I've been holding off on upgrading to the Vista HCx in the hope that Garmin would release a high end GPS at CES in 2008. Sounds like the Colorado will be it. If the Colorado writes tracks and waypoints to the card then in my mind it will be a winner even if it's heavier than the Etrex series. If the tracks aren't stored on the card then I will probably go with the light weight Vista HCx.

Edited by skopeo on 12/14/2007 17:23:47 MST.

Wade Henrichs
(WadeHenrichs) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
"unofficial" Garmin Colorado info on 12/14/2007 21:43:10 MST Print View

This apparently was on the Garmin site briefly and then pulled so I don't know how accurate this will turn out to be--but sounds tempting.




http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:90TqARRDIg4J:https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do%3FpID%3D11022+Garmin+Colorado+site:garmin.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
Garmin Colorado on 12/14/2007 22:09:13 MST Print View

Sounds like it has a lot of battery-hungry bells and whistles that hikers don't need and/or will rarely use........but you still have to pay for them.

MSRP = $642 is, IMO, rediculous. I have no intention of surveying or trying to find my way through the trackless depths of the amazon rain forest. Thanks, I'll pass.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F - M

Locale: British Columbia
Re: Garmin Colorado on 12/15/2007 00:53:02 MST Print View

I agree. Garmin will have to add something significant before I'd spend that much. At least the Vista HCx that was reviewed here has a much improved receiver which is a solid improvement and has the light weight/good battery life advantage. Unfortunately, the Vista still doesn't store the tracks to the SD card (... well it does but the GPS can't read them... which means they are useless). This has been a big problem with the Garmin's as I currently average about 40 miles on the track log before it starts overwriting itself. You can save the log but it filters it terribly and I generally have my maximum number of saved tracks already used up with tracks I've loaded up before the start of my trip. If the new GPS has unlimited track logs then I might make the jump. When the new SIRF 3 receiver came out in the 60cx I paid about $500 for it but it was worth it for the greatly improved reception. You can now buy it for under $300, so if I make the jump to the Colorado I'll wait until the price comes down (and wait for everybody else to find all the bugs).

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
Garmin GPSmap 60CSx on 12/15/2007 14:15:09 MST Print View

from an REI catalogue that just arrived, this quote from the description of the referenced GPS;

"highly sensitive SiRFstar III chipset...."


$499.95 ($459.95 after $50 Garmin mail-in rebate; expires 12/31/07)

Mike W
(skopeo) - F - M

Locale: British Columbia
Garmin GPSmap 60CSx on 12/15/2007 19:07:18 MST Print View

Are you referring to the 60Cx/60Csx? If so, the 60Cx is listed at under $300 (after rebate) at this site: http://www.gpscentral.ca/products/garmin/60cx.htm
The 60Csx is just a little more.

David C Briggs
(dcbriggs) - F - M
RE: Garmin Edge on 12/19/2007 19:39:55 MST Print View

I used the Forerunner 305 for about 100 miles of VT AT in October. It only lost fix a few times. I did have to recharge it everynight - it went low battery after about 11 hours. I wrote a program to convert AT centerline data to the Garmin .tcx format and used that as the track. The 305 beeps to tell you that you are off track and points you which way to get back on. Its not a map, but on the AT, its more than enough.
The Edge 705 soulds like it is a 3.7 oz full maping high sensitivity GPS that can take Garmin Topo maps. It also sounds like you can justify the price by getting the street maps and having it double as a Nuvi/TomTom since it also does turn by turn directions. Has anyone tried one yet for both purposes?

Octavio Salazar
(shotguntuna)
help downloading topo! waypoints on 01/15/2008 23:21:41 MST Print View

hi guys,
first off I’d like to thank for the very informative review, based on the information I’ve decided to give GPS route finding another try, I’ve had a GPS for a while now but I just use it as a back up and in reality only take it out of the pack each time I break camp, I mark the car location, put it away, then after a long day of hiking, bring out the GPS for a minute, mark the camp site then put it away again till the next night,
when I first got the unit I found it very distracting and was paying more attention to it than the land marks so I decided to use it this way as not to distract from my hiking experience,

I read the review and thought I could upgrade my GPS and get more use of it by making waypoins on my planned route using my topo! software before hand and habing the assurance of the route could actually do more exploring,
so that was the plan, so I buy the Vista HCx spend all day making the route on the software and now I cant download the waypoints to the unit, am I missing something?
how can I export the waypoints from topo! software to the Vista HCx unit? I hope its just “user error” otherwise I’ll return the unit and keep with my old ways

thanks for any advice

Octavio Salazar
(shotguntuna)
Re: help downloading topo! waypoints on 01/16/2008 10:58:23 MST Print View

so, i found i have an older version of topo!,
need to upgrade to ver.4.0

Rob Marchetti
(rob@lonepinetech.net) - F
hcx maps western US on 05/20/2008 07:20:30 MDT Print View

I have had a few garmin gps units and the hcx is my fav for sure. While the positioning is a little erratic ,the track can innacurately jump around, this is not a big problem and is part of learning curve. You learn to read the instrument and anticipate when it might be off a bit and get another reading.

The high senstitvity (hcx) is like night and day difference from the other non hcx etrex models. Way way way better reception to the point that the old models basically dont work in the woods and this one does.

As far as 24k maps that are uploadable to the garmin unit, check this out: http://www.miscjunk.org/ . I am not sure of the scale but the contour interval is way better than the mapsource maps. Essentially 24k detail on your gps! I have uploaded these maps to my unit and they are great.

Also the battery life is phenominal

I also have a colorado 400t and I think the hcx is better especially for long trips (weight and battery). The screen on the colorado is bigger but not that much easier to read. colo has more internal memory capability than hcx but for practical reson hcx has plenty.

Edited by rob@lonepinetech.net on 05/20/2008 07:28:34 MDT.