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Kevin Clayton
(kclayton)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
PCT gear list on 11/16/2007 20:31:10 MST Print View

Here is a rough gear list for my hike on the PCT next summer. I am planning on starting May 20 2008 and ending by October. There are some things that are still missing-any suggestions would be appreciated. along with critiques of my current set up. Anything I am Missing? things I can get rid of?

Clothing Items/carried items:
Tee shirt ~4oz
Shorts ~4oz
Long Sleeve Sun shirt ~7
Head sweats Pro tech Hat -3oz
Leki Trekking poles -18oz
Camp Corsa Ice Axe for Sierras -7oz

Footwear:
Smart wool Adrenaline U.l. mini Crew X2 -2.2oz
Simblissity Sree Gaiter -1.8oz
Camp XLC 490 crampons for sierra -17.3oz
Light weight shoos: I have always been a boot person and am looking to switch over any suggestions helpfull: Looking at Inov8 and Montrail shoos.

Other Clothing Items
Golite Virga Rain Jacket for oregon and WA -8oz
Rab Quantum or Golite Wisp Wind Jacket -3oz
Golite Whim wind Pants -4oz
Montbell U.L thermawrap inner jacket -9.8oz
warm cap ~2oz

Packing:
Granite Gear Vapor Trail -32oz
2 stuff sacks ~2

Sleep System:
Tarptent Contrail -24.5oz
Montbell Super Stretch Downhugger #5 or 4 -20oz
Gossamer Gear Nightlight pad -3.6oz

Kitchen:
ThermoJet Microlight Alchohol stovesystem -2.5oz
Vargo Titanium .9L Kettle -4oz
Firelite Folding Titanium Spork -.54oz
Fuel Bottle? the one the stove came with is 4oz

hydration
2 3L Platypus containers + 1 1L in Southern CA -3.9oz
Rest of trip 2 1L Platypus -1.8oz
Aquamira water treatment -3oz

Miscellaneous:
Adventure med kit -2.2oz
Msr Packtowel -.7oz
Princeton Tech EOS -3.7oz
Camera-still looking for one
Journal Pen
matches
bandana

Total approximate Weight Summary
Pack Base Wieght:
Southern CA-8.52Pounds-3.86kg
High Sierra-9.72pounds-4.41kg
Oregon and Washington-8.88pounds-4.03kg

Items worn or carried
~3.8 pounds-1.7kg

Edited by kclayton on 11/16/2007 20:33:15 MST.

Doug Johnson
(djohnson) - MLife

Locale: Washington State
Re: PCT gear list on 11/16/2007 21:16:26 MST Print View

That's a good looking list Kevin- and your trip sounds GREAT! Here are a few ideas:

You could drop 12 ounces in the Sierra if you traded the Camp axe and crampons for ULA Equipment gear.

Unless you're an occasional trekking pole user, 19 oz for poles is very heavy for what's now on the market. I'd go Gossamer Gear Lightrek 3 fixies to save about 13 ounces from your hands.

How about rain pants?
What's your rain gear outside of the Pac NW?

For the same insulation jacket weight, you could have a much warmer Cocoon hoody.

I love the Nightlight pad but I'd hate to sleep on it for that long...

Very cool- have fun planning the trip!

Doug

Dave T
(DaveT)
pct on 11/17/2007 10:40:32 MST Print View

right on for your trip! the pct is a great adventure. not always fun, but very rewarding. and unbelievable scenery. i hiked it in 2004 - very low snow in the sierra, but lots of rain in OR (unexpected) and WA (expected).

my comments:

trekking poles: i would never think of hiking without them, but you can easily drop lots of weight there. i used REI UL carbon fiber (made by Komperdell) and removed the wrist straps. i like collapsible poles, for adjusting the tarptent pitch, hitchhiking, etc.

ice axe: if you leave in late may, you might not need an ice axe. watch the snow levels. i left a month earlier than that, and the sierra (in 2004 low snow) was simple without it. however, for 7 oz, it's nice to have one when you need it. but FIRST learn to use it (i took a winter mountaineering course), and that means learning to climb in balance, self-belay, and the last resorts of self-arrest. i had a cassin ghost.

crampons: i can't think you'll possibly need these, especially leaving in late may, especially if you have an axe. i did a monthlong hike (SHR) in the high sierra in 2006 in TONS of snow, and there were probably 5 times when we used our grivel airtech crampons. they were great to have then, but we also could've just timed the descents differently, or waited a while for the snow to soften. i'd suggest you don't need crampons.

light shoes: for sure. you don't need all the weight and support with light pack weigth and trekking poles. they keep your feet comfortable in hot socal (and norcal and oregon!) and dry faster in the non-stop wet of the snowmelt sierra and rainy washington. i didn't use gaiters, but i might use very light ones if i did it now.

rain gear: you'll want some kind of rain gear for california too. i got rained on in socal, and sierra thunderstorms can be pretty serious (rain, hail, etc.), albeit usually for a short time period. we got LOTS of rain in oregon, and i didn't have my full cold/wet gear... it wasn't great. i never use rain/wind pants, but i did wear tights under shorts in the rains in WA.

pack: i used an old aether 60, but i'd use the vapor trail if i did the trail now. i have much lighter gear now, and it's a great pack. i'm going to shorten the extension collar of mine, and i cut off the needless bottom side straps that go over the side pockets.

shelter: i used a tartpent squall 1 on my 2004 hike, and i LOVED it. especially in the rain, it's great to have lots of room to spread out and keep dry stuff dry and wet stuff wet. it's a palace. however, i also have a contrail, and am very impressed by the size inside (i'm tall). i'd use that if i did the pct now. henry shires is the man. you'll quickly learn how to deal with condensation and wet inside/outsides - bring a packtowel to wipe it, and dry it in a few minutes when the sun comes out.

groundsheet: i used a tyvek groundsheet, and i might do the same now (vs. polycryo). it's nice to have a burly groundsheet - in socal we just slept out, and it's great for lunchtime siestas, etc. i don't like babying groundsheets.

groundpad: i used a z-rest in socal/sierra, and a short thermarest after tahoe. i might use a nightlite now since they are so light, or my Prolite 3 since it's more comfy. i quickly learned to sleep on my back on the z-rest, and you're so tired usually anyway it just doesn't matter.

sleeping bag: i'm sure your bag is good. i used a WM alpinlite for the whole hike except Tahoe to Ashland, where i took a synthetic kelty 45 bag. i knew it was going to be hot, dry, and dirty for those miles, and didn't want to get my good WM bag dirty, and didn't need the temp.

stove: i used a optimus crux with canister the whole way, but i think i'd go to alcohol and the lightest setup possible now. however, i really enjoyed the convenience and safety of the canister when in my sleeping bag in the rain in OR and WA and cooking in the Squall vestibule. cooking in PCT-style, you can get LOTS of mileage out of a canister, but i still like the superlight approach (well, minus the fuel on longer stretches) for alcohol now.

pot: 0.9L is the way to go. enough room to put a large dinner in. trust me, you'll want to pig out. :)

water: i carried 6 liters max in socal, 1 liter through the sierra, 3 or more in norcal, and remember that there are LONG dry stretches in oregon too. and the hat creek rim. you'll quickly learn (if you don't know) how to deal with water - everyone's apprehensive about it, especially in socal, but you learn to camel up, carry the right amount, predict the sources ahead, etc. it's not a big deal. but err on the side of carrying the capacity for water - my usual was a 1L Aquafina bottle, plus a 2+L Platypus. and i can't stress this enough - DON'T rely on the water caches. i didn't (and i am opposed to them) and found several key ones empty when i arrived. carry the water you need to get to the next reliable source.

camera: a good digital with good movie mode. i took tons of pictures, and also lots of movies. it's great to have all the memories. make sure to keep a journal somehow too - it can seem like a pain sometimes, but it's very woth it.

as you round your list out, i'd be happy to give you any more thoughts i can. pack light and have a great time. most of all, hike your own hike. it's easy to get caught up in trying to keep up with people (or lose people!) or this and that... but just focus on hiking and having fun. it's an amazing trip.

peace.

dave t.

Edited by DaveT on 11/17/2007 10:48:34 MST.

Kevin Clayton
(kclayton)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
PCT gear list on 11/17/2007 19:20:47 MST Print View

thankyou for the replys.

I will deffinetly look at lighter trekking poles. I have never used them before but everyone I talk to says I should deffinetly have them and I agree. The ones I have right now were given to me for free. So I was planning on just using them to save some money, but I think I can do better.

As far as rain gear goes, I have never worn rain pants before. I generally dont seem to have a problem with my legs getting wet. I was planning on just sticking with wind gear in california but I may reconsider. If rain is usually infrequent and short lived I tend to rather just let myself get wet and dry out when the sun comes out. In oregon and WA I plan on carrying a rain jacket because the rain is more likely to last for multiple days.

Thankyou for the suggestions on Ice axes and Crampons also. I have never heard of UL-equipment before. It looks like they have some great stuff, including their packs. I am going to be watching the snow in the sierra to decide whether or not to bring them. Most guide books seem to think that they are necessities so I was given that impression. I do have quiet a bit of experience with self rescue and glacier travel mainly through Ice Climbing.
What are some of the best sites to track Snow Depth in the Sierra?

Edited by kclayton on 11/17/2007 19:22:29 MST.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - M

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: PCT gear list on 11/17/2007 19:27:24 MST Print View

Hey Kevin,
You could also get the Katoola Mini Spikes if you feel the need to bring crampons.
Nice List!

Edited by awsorensen on 11/17/2007 19:28:06 MST.

Dave T
(DaveT)
snow depth / rain on 11/17/2007 21:34:59 MST Print View

you can check some nearby snow sensors at:
http://postholer.com/cgi-bin/postHoler?trail=pct

as far as rain gear in california, people have been snowed out in the san jacintos, and through crazy thunderstorms and the like. i liked my rain jacket as a warmth layer too, although you definitely end up carrying it in the pack most of the time. maybe a bit of bouncing it ahead when not needed would be a good idea. i too never wear rain pants... just let them get wet and dry out later (i don't get cold from my legs).

Edited by DaveT on 11/17/2007 21:37:49 MST.

P. P.
(toesnorth) - M

Locale: PNW
Re: "PCT gear list" on 11/17/2007 21:59:15 MST Print View

" i too never wear rain pants... just let them get wet and dry out later."

Hmmm. Having been born and raised in the good old PNW, I would recommend rain pants. If you don't, your pants will NEVER dry out...........unless you set fire to them!

Dave T
(DaveT)
pants on 11/17/2007 22:36:46 MST Print View

i was talking about my LEGS getting wet and drying off later. if it's raining, i just wear shorts. on the pct, i wore tights in the cold rain (and snow) of WA.