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Derek Cox
(derekcox) - F

Locale: Southeast
has anyone tried this wood burning stove? on 10/16/2007 12:14:58 MDT Print View

http://site283.webhost4life.com/afmservices/trailgear/compactstove/falk-compact-stove-instructions.htm

looks like it packs pretty small and is fairly simple to make. does anyone have any experience with it?

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
Re: Falk Wood Stove on 10/16/2007 13:26:53 MDT Print View

Truthfully, that appears to be an more-complicated (to build) version of the Falk Wood Stove that I have used and like.

It certainly has even better ventilation.

I can't say which was the first and which was the second.

John Kays
(johnk) - M

Locale: SoCal
Going Hungry on 10/16/2007 13:41:09 MDT Print View

I built the Falk Stove and took into the southern Sierra last fall. The one I made looked just like the one in photos of the posted website but it didn’t work for me. I would have gone hungry if I have not have been able to borrow my buddy’s stove the whole trip. I still get a lot of ribbing over it. The Bushbuddy Ultra, on the other hand, works great. It would be my main stove except for the wood collection prohibition in many of the areas that I hike in.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Jim Falk's Wood Burning Stove on 10/16/2007 19:04:38 MDT Print View

Actually, if you guys can hold out until the weekend, I just got the conmpact version and tested it out Saturday and am planning to make a video of it this weekend. I like it much better than the original one-piece version. I'll try to post here but depending on the size of the video, it will either be on my blog or on my youube channel.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
Re: Jim Falk's Wood Burning Stove on 10/17/2007 07:26:54 MDT Print View

Jason -

I look forward to it. Your stove videos are well done and are like a break in the clouds that is the storm of useless videos on YouTube.

- Sam

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Video on 10/19/2007 16:50:11 MDT Print View

Thanks Sam! Now I gues I HAVE to make the video this weekend!

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Stove Video on 10/21/2007 14:36:18 MDT Print View

OK, as promised: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pN30_tG7S3A

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Stove Video on 10/21/2007 14:47:05 MDT Print View

Or just click here for the video. OK, did my good deed for the day...

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Video on 10/21/2007 15:41:09 MDT Print View

You and your hyperlinks Ben!

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
has anyone tried this wood burning stove? on 10/21/2007 17:10:55 MDT Print View

Jason - Informative and well done. Thanks.

Derek Cox
(derekcox) - F

Locale: Southeast
thanks on 10/21/2007 18:12:02 MDT Print View

thanks a lot jason. that was much more than i could have hoped for and we all appreciate it.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Stove Video on 10/21/2007 20:22:34 MDT Print View

Hi Jason

> OK, as promised: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pN30_tG7S3A
I notice you put the pot on the stove with your hand and pot holder over the triangular cut-out. Methinks it might be safer to hold the pot from the other side away from the cutout?

I also noticed that you placed the stove directly on the forest floor. Now this may be OK where you are, but do you know what would happen in Australia if I did that? About 10 seconds after lighting the stove I would have a great big bushfire spreading through the forest! A bit like the Californian fires maybe.

Cheers

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
has anyone tried this wood burning stove? on 10/22/2007 07:49:39 MDT Print View

This is an issue with this and most all wood burning stoves. I've noticed in another thread this stove is being touted as an inexpensive alternative to the Bushbuddy. In terms of expense, yes it is a great alternative, however in terms of functionality they are not in the same category.

The Bushbuddy is a double-walled downdraft gassifier stove with a metal base which leaves no fire-scar. Jim Falk's stove is in a category with most other wood burning stoves on the market which aren't much more than miniature fire rings. If the purpose is to simply cook over a fire then why not gather a couple rocks together, put your cookpot on top of them and start a fire beneath? Why bother with the six ounce stove. If your goal is to burn every last bit of energy out of a few handfuls of twigs then a gassifier stove is the way to go.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
vs. Bushbuddy on 10/22/2007 13:01:41 MDT Print View

Hi Sam,
I appreciate your comments about this stove vs. the Bushbuddy and I know the BB is a gasification stove; however, I wasn't suggesting that they are the same animals. I was merely suggesting that people like me who want to try an efficient wood burning stove but can't afford the outrageous price of $140 for the Bushbuddy might consider this one. Don't get me wrong, I think the BB is a great design and I'd LOVE to have one but I can't afford it.

Also, to address your question of using a few rocks rather than carrying the stove: I think you get a much more controlled flame with the stove and that just using rocks (assuming you are able to find just the right ones) would not give you as good of a boil time.

My 2 cents.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Re: Re: Stove Video on 10/22/2007 13:07:35 MDT Print View

Hey Rodger,
You're right. I would always recommend that people put a wood burning stove on a flat stone or something. And certainly, you want to clear the surrounding area of debris that can catch fire (especially when it's windy). I put the stove on the ground the way I did because it was the best place for the purpose of the video (lighting, wind protection, etc.).

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
Re: BB vs "Hobo Stove" on 10/22/2007 13:36:17 MDT Print View

Sam,

You are certainly correct that comparing the functionality of this (or nearly any) DYI-ish stove to the Bushbuddy is like comparing... oh, I don't know, I can't think of a real good comparison.

However, saying that it's not worth it to bring a stove as compared to gathering rocks is not correct.

1) Stove are far more stable and less likely to spill your dinner.
2) Stoves are a bit more efficient and far less finicky to keep a relatively small fire going (aka a twig fire), due to a number of factors.
3) Stove have the potential to result in less earth scarring (Actually, a rather simple modification to this stove would wind up in zero earth scarring).

So, if wood is going to be a last-resort backup, yeah go with gathering rocks. If you're likely to use wood on a regular basis, a 6 oz stove is a pretty cheap (weight wise) investment.

EDIT - HUH! For some reason, when I started posting, I didn't see JK's comments.

Edited by jdmitch on 10/22/2007 13:40:09 MDT.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Yep. on 10/22/2007 14:41:00 MDT Print View

Right on Josh!

Jim Falk
(trailgear) - F

Locale: Florida
Greetings on 10/22/2007 14:45:11 MDT Print View

Hello everyone ... It's me Jim Falk creator of the Compact Wood Stove. Good to see a lot of discussion about my design. I enjoy the banter.

Jim Colten
(jcolten) - M

Locale: MN
Re: vs. Bushbuddy on 10/22/2007 15:11:21 MDT Print View

Don't get me wrong, I think the BB is a great design and I'd LOVE to have one but I can't afford it.

Consider buying directly from Bushbuddy .... still not cheap but less expensive, was much better before the USD took a nose dive on the currency exchanges. The new std Bushbuddy is the same size as the ultra and just 1.4oz heavier and less expensive too.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Re: Re: vs. Bushbuddy on 10/22/2007 18:33:07 MDT Print View

Hey Jim, you buying? He, he. :) Honestly, the Trail Gear wood stove works fine for me and I can't justify paying so much for such a slight weight difference. I'm always thrilled when I find something UL that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.