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Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008)

Clear your Visa card, kids, because this is going to cost you.

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by Ryan Jordan | 2008-01-24 00:21:00-07

Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008)

When you consider that a conventional cable telemark binding averages about 600 g (21 oz) per ski, and that the typical free-hinge (pivoting) telemark binding averages about 800 g (28 oz) per ski, and that the typical Dynafit alpine touring ("AT" or "randonee") binding averages about 400 g (14 oz) per ski, then you start to get some perspective about my excitement for the Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding, which will cost you only 160 g (5.6 oz) per ski.

Now, the Low-Tech Race has some limitations, don't get me wrong. After all, it's designed for randonee racing, not long distance backcountry ski touring. However, those of you that know me know that I like to push racing gear in tough conditions. Noting that Dynafit designed the binding for racing, but "allows" for its use in extreme conditions (based on their marketing materials), I'm pretty enthused to put a pair of these on some carbon skis and head to the mountains.

Here's the catch.

You're going to need to mortgage something to be able to afford the bindings: MSRP = US$759. Ouch.

There is only one other limitation that might cause one to gasp at the thought of shelling nearly eight hundred bucks on something that seems to only barely grab your randonee boots: lack of a significant heel lift range for climbing.

In the photos above, the small yellow plastic piece is up for skiing and down for climbing giving negligible rise compared to the several inches gained from the climbing bails on other tele bindings, and even the adjustable rise on conventional Dynafit bindings.

However, if you absolutely want the lightest possible randonee setup available, these bindings are your ticket. They would certainly comprise one of the absolute lightest possible AT rigs possible:

  • Goode Randonee Carbon Skis (New for 2008!) - Tip 92cm, Waist 64cm, Tail 78cm; Weight 815g/ski (28.7 oz/ski); Length 160cm - US$1000ish
  • Dynafit Low-Tech Race Bindings (New for 2008!) - 160 g/ski (5.6 oz/ski) - US$759
  • Dynafit TLT Race Pro TF - 1220 g/boot (43 oz/boot) - US$599

Your total package price, not including poles, skins, avalanche transceiver, probe, shovel, and Lycra tights: more than a reliable used Subaru.

The benefit of skiing ultralight - on the world's lightest gear at 2.2 kg (4.8 lb) per foot:

Priceless, perhaps?


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"Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008)," by Ryan Jordan. BackpackingLight.com (ISSN 1537-0364).
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Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008)
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Will Rietveld
(WilliWabbit) - MLife

Locale: Southwest Colorado
Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008) on 01/24/2008 00:28:49 MST Print View

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Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008)

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Help! on 01/24/2008 01:56:23 MST Print View

Hi Will

HOW do these things work????
Please, add a photo of the bindings on a ski with some boots in them!

Cheers
Roger

Jonathan Shefftz
(jshefftz1) - MLife

Locale: Western Mass.
And even lighter yet... on 01/24/2008 08:02:03 MST Print View

Okay, so not that much lighter -- since significantly lighter would be defying gravity -- but:

http://www.atkrace.com/prodotti_pro2_en.php
http://www.atkrace.com/prodotti_pro_en.php
-- After-market modified Dynafit bindings (toe & heel, per ski) at 135g.

http://www.skitrab.com/index.php?cmd=viewart&id=9
-- Ski Trab Piuma Duo Race Aero World Cup at 765g per ski.

http://pierregignoux2.free.fr/GB/Xp500.php
-- He sells only the shells, but I calculate that with the liners I currently have in my modified Dynafit MLT4 boots, for my size 26.5 foot, the weight per foot (for shells & liners combined) would be 1 lb 5.6 oz.

Jon Rhoderick
(hotrhoddudeguy) - F - M

Locale: New England
typo? on 01/24/2008 08:31:34 MST Print View

fixed.

Edited by hotrhoddudeguy on 01/24/2008 22:24:38 MST.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
Goode Rando Skis, etc. on 01/24/2008 12:03:11 MST Print View

A Rando ski for hobbits? It's about the dimensions of my Fischer Rebounds!
These are popular dimensions for a Euro Rando race ski but for AT backcountry?
In multiple conditions? But the siren call of UL skiing beckons---I want to see a trip report from Dr. Jordan w/ the full rig. :-)>

My all-around AT rig:
Atomic MX9s
Dynafit Comforts
Scarpa Matrix
getting to be a little old skool but versatile and reliable--and 3x as much weight!

Benjamin Smith
(bugbomb) - F - M

Locale: South Texas
Re: typo? on 01/24/2008 19:15:21 MST Print View

Good catch, Jonathon - it's been corrected in the article above.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Rando Racing for Hobbits on 01/24/2008 21:03:53 MST Print View

Kevin - you're too funny. But very right. This rando ski would be a sinker in winter powder, but the rig could be really nice for the spring...!

Jeremy Cleaveland
(jeremy11) - F

Locale: Exploring San Juan talus
Dynafit Low-Tech Race Binding and Goode Randonee Carbon Skis Set New Weight - and Cost - Standards for Alpine Ski Touring (Outdoor Retailer Winter Market 2008) on 01/24/2008 22:19:37 MST Print View

My size 12 tele boots weight about 10 pounds :-(