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Cocoon Pillow by Design Salt (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2007)

A pillow that feels real that weighs 3.2 ounces

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by Ken Knight | 2007-08-09 21:33:00-06

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The prototype pillow and stuff sack weigh 3.2 ounces and provide true pillowy comfort.

It is hard to put a quantitative measure on a good night's sleep. Is it worth a projected 3.0 ounces, the target weight of the Cocoon pillow by Design Salt? The prototype model I saw this morning weighs 3.2 ounces with its stuff sack and I think many will feel as I do: the weight sacrifice will often be worth it. The production model, slated for release Spring 2008, could very well shave 0.2 ounce off the total weight.

To achieve this weight and still have a pillow that feels like a true pillow the Cocoon uses a combination of an air bladder and synthetic fill insulation inside the shell fabrics. The bladder is positioned in the center of the pillow and is surrounded by the insulation It's all wrapped with a fleece-like top and slick bottom.

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"Cocoon Pillow by Design Salt (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2007)," by Ken Knight. (ISSN 1537-0364)., 2007-08-09 21:33:00-06.


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Kenneth Knight
(kenknight) - MLife

Locale: SE Michigan
Cocoon Pillow by Design Salt (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2007) on 08/09/2007 21:53:12 MDT Print View

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Cocoon Pillow by Design Salt (Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2007)

Dave -
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Locale: Up there
ID Pillow on 08/10/2007 09:00:25 MDT Print View

Personally I think the Integral Designs Primasilk Pillow, with it's silky and soft feel for only 4oz seems like a better choice if trying to mimick sleep at home. Air bladders alway give me a sore neck.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Here
Sweet dreams on 08/11/2007 18:39:33 MDT Print View

This is a better version of my wine cask bladder (2 L) system, however with a weight penalty. My way is to inflate the bladder only a little, cover it with the softest clothing I have (usually my day wool T and my possum wool jumper, put that inside a stuff sac and cover with my pants or whatever layer I have left. The total extra weight is about 1 oz ( the bladder). At the same time as David mentioned, it can result in a soar neck if not done correctly (over inflated) and because I toss and turn occasionally the plastic spout still manages to sink in my face.
So maybe the extra size and simplicity could be worth the weight and packed space penalty.

Tim Garner
(slowhike) - F

Locale: South East U.S.
neck pillow??? on 08/12/2007 14:28:18 MDT Print View

i sleep in a hammock (at home & on the trail)& a neck style (U-shaped) pillow is what works best for me.
i sure would like to see cocoon apply that same construction method to a neck pillow.
that would have to get even lighter yet. ...tim

Jen Schwartz

Locale: Upper Left
Feathered Friends down pillow on 08/20/2007 15:47:45 MDT Print View

Ok, I know this is overly luxurious - with a corresponding weight penalty - but Feather Friends has a 7oz down pillow that turns inside out to stuff into itself, and it is just dreamy to sleep on - generously sized, very high loft, and FF's consistently excellent quality. I'm still new to backpacking and sleeping on the ground, and this pillow has really eased the transition for me.

Jon Rhoderick
(hotrhoddudeguy) - F - M

Locale: New England
Re: Feathered Friends down pillow on 08/20/2007 19:56:22 MDT Print View

I own a down pillow for my bed, and I find that its probably even bigger and doesn't stop the "sink" of you head back to the proper straight position without the use of a firmer pillow underneath. take a look a the big agnes pumphouse, that looks like a massive drybag with 6 uses including a voluminous pillow.

Cathy Biggins
(Geargal) - F
Pillows on 09/22/2007 20:38:24 MDT Print View

Balancing weight and comfort is always an issue especially when it comes down to pillows. I tried a variety of solutions, beginning with the clothes under the head, which was very uncomfortable and always unfolded, then I tried various lightweight solutions (flexair pillow, thermarest sit pad as a pillow, etc.) I usually found my pillow MIA during the night and at times under some part of my unknown neighbor in a shelter on the AT.

Finally I found the solution, I take my lightweight pillow and put some seam grip on each side, then place it under the top of my thermarest, it elevates the head of my thermarest mattress, and provides elevation and cushioning for my head, the pillow stays in place and the entire top of my thermarest becomes a comfy pillow for the cost of only 1-3 ounces. :)