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Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market

Polish manufacturer Warmth Unlimited launches its line of lightweight garments and bags in the US.

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by Mike Martin | 2007-01-30 12:11:00-07

Warmth Unlimited, formerly known outside the US as Yeti, is bringing their line of down products to the US. Their products caught my attention for several reasons. First, the 860 fill power Polish down used in their products is some of the best I've ever seen. Second, they use the lightest shell materials available. Third, their designs incorporate features that take advantage of the properties of the high quality down without adding unnecessary complexity, bulk, or weight.

According to company co-owner, Ladyslaw Piasecki, the down used in their products achieves its premium status as a result of the Polish agriculture structure where the geese are kept outdoors and must survive harsh winters. All down is a byproduct of the food industry, but in Poland the geese are allowed to grow to full maturity before they are harvested. The adult geese, raised in the cold environment, naturally develop the loftiest down.

Lightweight shell fabrics, including Pertex Quantum and Microlight, as well as others are used in their recent products. Though they are currently moving away from the Pertex fabrics and using 20 denier fabrics from another supplier, with plans to introduce 15 denier fabrics in the next year.

The bags and garments all incorporate fully-baffled construction with baffle geometry designed to allow the down to loft to its fullest extent. Complicated construction and unneeded features are thankfully absent across the entire line. The company seems genuinely focused on providing the highest warmth per weight ratio in their products, and we welcome them to the US market.

Here are some photos and brief specs for a representative bag and parka in their line. Before you scoff at the 27 ounce weight for a bag rated to 27°F, note that the Q 500 bag in the photo is constructed with 1.75 inch baffles and (judging solely by appearance) has an estimated single-layer loft of well over 2.5 inches. If you compare that to the loft and temperature ratings of other bag manufacturers, I'd say they are being extremely conservative.

Q 500 Sleeping Bag Key Features:

  • 20 denier nylon shell and liner
  • 7/8 length draft-protected side zipper
  • Fully baffled construction
  • 860 fill power down
  • Temperature Rating: 27°F (-3°C)
  • Weight: 27 oz (760g)
  • MSRP: $320

Bonatti Parka Key Features:

  • 20 denier nylon shell and liner
  • Insulated two way zipper
  • Fully baffled construction
  • 860 fill power down
  • Insulated hand warmer pockets
  • Stowaway hood
  • Weight: 16 oz (445g)

Photos: the 27 ounce Q 500 Sleeping Bag and 16 ounce Bonatti jacket


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Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 12:11:02 MST Print View

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Aaron Granda
(Throckmorton) - MLife
Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 14:15:04 MST Print View

These look very good and are competitively priced. Any idea on the cost of the jacket? I would buy one,especially if it came in dark green.

Michael Martin
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Locale: North Idaho
Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 14:37:25 MST Print View

Sorry, I didn't get a price for the jacket and I've left the show. I'd try to email them through their website at www.yeti.com.pl.

Cheers,

-Mike

Edited by MikeMartin on 01/30/2007 14:50:28 MST.

Woubeir (from Europe)
(Woubeir) - F - MLife
Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 15:05:09 MST Print View

Just to clarify something about the Yeti-Warmth Unlimited connection. If not mistaken Warmth Unlimited is known in Poland as Yeti. But there is also a German sleeping bag manufacturer which is known as Yeti (http://www.yetiworld.com ) and I believe this is the company which is rather well known in Europe. To avoid any confusion I guess Yeti Poland calls themself Warmth Unlimited outside Poland.

Michael Martin
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Locale: North Idaho
Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 15:41:20 MST Print View

>> Just to clarify something about the Yeti-Warmth Unlimited connection. If not mistaken Warmth Unlimited is known in Poland as Yeti. But there is also a German sleeping bag manufacturer which is known as Yeti (http://www.yetiworld.com ) and I believe this is the company which is rather well known in Europe. To avoid any confusion I guess Yeti Poland calls themself Warmth Unlimited outside Poland.

Hi Tom-

I spoke with the Warmth Unlimited owners about this very issue. Apparently, there has been considerable history and friction between the two companies over the rights to the name "Yeti". According to the Warmth Unlimited owners, much to their dismay, the polish Yeti was still behind the iron curtain when the german company began using the name. They said they've now adopted the name "Warmth Unlimited" with international trademark registration to avoid future issues.

Cheers,

-Mike

Edited by MikeMartin on 01/30/2007 15:47:47 MST.

Christopher Plesko
(Pivvay) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 16:47:26 MST Print View

The Parka's hood is insulated right? Any idea how much of that 16oz jacket is down?

Michael Martin
(MikeMartin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: North Idaho
Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 01/30/2007 16:58:56 MST Print View

The hood on that particular parka was not down insulated, but others in their line are. Note that their website is a bit behind their product development -- different names, models, etc. than they displayed at the show.

The fill weight is listed as 110-160g depending on size and with 700 FP down. (700 FP or 860 FP fill are available at different price points.)

Cheers,

-Mike

Jose Ramon Vazquez
(bisaurin) - F
Re: Re: Warmth Unlimited introduces lightweight down products to US Market on 02/05/2007 12:28:58 MST Print View

http://www.yeti.com.pl/

david beveridge
(beforeGTEX)
Yeti Poland on 02/07/2007 18:13:35 MST Print View

I found them on the web 3-4 years ago and the pricing was 1/3-1/2 of Feathered Friends/Western Mountaineering. I have several of their jackets and the quality is in the same range as FF/WM. I had a lot of shipping issues with them too but the guy(Radek?)is really nice.

Marcin Moscicki
(turin) - F
alternatives on 04/12/2007 15:18:47 MDT Print View

Yeti AKA Warmth Unlimited has great products, but it's better to stick with their upper shelf - some cheper bags were claimed by people to contain less down or of different quality (mixed duck/goose down) then advertised, and I for one can say that during the pertex shortage period, they sold bags with different shells without actually telling worse-informed clients about it...

I am a happy owner of their 'expedition grade' down jacket, and most of my friends are satisfied users of their various bags (mainly older models), and I am not aiming at discrediting the company I quite like. It just happens that while it may be the most known polish down equipment producer outside of the country, it's not the only one out there - you may want to try their competition.

http://roberts.pl/ - considered by locals the best brand, favorite choice of polar expeditions and such;

Or, very competitively priced,
http://www.cumulus-sleepingbags.co.uk/CumulusQuantumSleepingBags.htm

I don't know about costs of shipping to US and taxes, but if you're looking for a really warm (i.e. expensive) sleeping bag, they may be worth a look. Just treat the offer on their pages as guidelines - they'll do about anything you want. It's best to contact them directly, choose prefered down and shell fabric (for the moment Roberts at least offers quantum endurance), introduce any modifications, like snugger or wider fit, more down in the bottom half (cumulus bags are aggressively differentially filled!), etc.

Edited by turin on 04/12/2007 15:39:44 MDT.